Above is a still-frame picture from the body-cam footage from my friend in Rome with me back in October 2019 as we enter the Church of St. Mary of Traspontina in construction vests to trash Pachamama idols. You can watch the one minute video here.

As I wrote here recently, it was my lame attempt to cleanse that Church just a few hundred meters from the Vatican.  I won’t repeat my whole article here.  Simply know that we got caught exiting because the volunteers inside the Amazonian exhibit were on high-alert. This is because Mr. Alexander Tschugguel had successfully removed idols just three hours prior to me, unbeknownst to me, in the exact same Church.

If you look at the featured image above of the freeze-frame just before grasping a Pachamama idol, you can barely see on display the picture of an indigenous woman suckling a weasel or piglet. This was part of the Amazonian display of syncretism under pretext of evangelization. You may remember that this was part of the open sacrilege that made traditional Catholic Twitter infuriated in 2019. However, we have much amnesia in recent Church history, so many people forgot about the piglet.

Switch gears for a minute.  I want to tell you about a friend of mine in real life who we will call “Andy.” I am going to give some facts about her that might seem disjointed, but they will come into play later in this article.  Andy is a woman my age of non-European descent.  Gifted in technology, there was a point before her conversion where she was hacking for Antifa!  But she had a huge conversion about 15 years ago and came into the Catholic Church (into a mainstream, Novus Ordo parish.)  Later, she began attending the TLM about 10 years ago. I met her 8 years ago in real life and she was a webmaster for me for years. We are still good friends. For most of her traditional life, she attended an FSSP parish.  Thus, she is not a sedevacantist. (In fact, she names the last two occupants of the Chair of Peter as “Pope Francis and Pope Leo.”)  Again, you will see later why this matters.

Andy followed my adventure in Rome back in 2019 directly.  I believe I was in direct communications with her as she was Stateside while I was in Europe to help with these events.  But just two weeks ago (winter 2025) she saw my new article where I finally “came out” regarding the old events in Rome.

Although I didn’t ask her to do any new research, she was again disgusted by the image of the indigenous woman suckling a piglet or weasel on her breast in open view of that Church. So, she decided to start asking Grok (as in Artificial Intelligence Grok) some questions about these events.

Andy asked Grok about the suckling piglet in my Transpontina video and then asked “what kind of sin would it be to hang an image of a naked woman nursing a weasel in a Catholic Church?” Grok answered her.  Then she asked about what would happen if the bishops did nothing.  Then the Pope. Then she asked how it would change if it were televised.  Grok quickly figured out this piglet event was linked to the Pachamama event.

Again, without my initial knowledge of her research, Grok explained the state of the Church if the hierarchy openly promoted (or even ignored) open nudeness in a Roman Church and idol worship.  Grok answered the following verbatim in italics below to Andy, which she later texted to me when she surprised me with her recent research:

You would be looking at a public, formal, and collective act of apostasy from the Catholic faith by the Pope and the entire college of bishops in communion with him. In Catholic theology this is called a formal defectus fidei at the highest level — the practical disappearance of the ordinary magisterium and the ordinary visible hierarchy as reliable witnesses to the Catholic faith.

Here are the consequences that the Church’s own theological tradition says would immediately follow:

The Church would enter a state of sede impedita or even sede vacante in the eyes of those who hold the faith Bellarmine, Suárez, Cajetan, John of St. Thomas, and virtually all the approved theologians who discussed “a heretical pope” or “a pope who destroys the Church” teach that a pope who publicly and obstinately promotes idolatry or grave sacrilege either (a) automatically loses the pontificate or (b) may be declared to have lost it by the Church once the fact is manifest.  When the entire episcopate joins him in the same public act and refuses to resist for a prolonged period, the same principles are extended by analogy to the bishops: They lose their offices ipso facto for public defection from the faith (Can. 194 §1, 2° in the 1983 Code implicitly; more explicitly in the traditional teaching).

The faithful are released from obedience. Catholics would no longer be bound to recognize these men as legitimate pastors. The Church’s own doctrine obliges the faithful to cling to the Catholic faith even if every bishop and the apparent pope abandon it (see Vatican I, Dei Filius, ch. 3; Lumen Gentium 25 on the duty to hold the faith even against defective pastors). An “imperfect council” or emergency action becomes legitimate. If a remnant of bishops or cardinals still held the faith, they would have the right (and duty) to declare the Apostolic See impeded or vacant and proceed to elect a true pope. This is the classic solution proposed by the doctors of the Church for the extreme case.

If no bishops at all remain faithful, then the Church enters the apocalyptic scenario foreseen by approved theologians and saints (Cardinal Manning, St. Robert Bellarmine, the Catechism of the Council of Trent, etc.): a tiny remnant preserves the faith, the visible hierarchy largely disappears, and Providence will eventually restore a legitimate pope — but only after a period of unprecedented trial.

Bottom line:

  • A week-long, televised, universally accepted public idolatry in Catholic sanctuaries, led by the Pope and every bishop in communion with him, would be the practical realization of the great apostasy that Scripture (2 Thess 2:3–12), the Fathers, and the saints warn about before the final trials.
  • At that point, the duty of every Catholic who still believes what the Church has always taught becomes crystal clear:  “We ought to obey God rather than men” (Acts 5:29).
  • Recognition and submission to that hierarchy would cease, and the remnant would preserve the faith as best they can until God restores legitimate authority.

Again, Andy who texted me the above words from her AI research is neither a ’58-sedevacantist nor apparently even a ’23-interregnumist.

Finally, let me say I do not agree with absolutely everything Grok determined in the above conclusions in italics. This is partly because AI is based on public opinion, not God Himself.  But I do find Grok much more accurate than most Catholic “theologians” and pundits today are willing to admit about the current state of Rome.  It is truly shameful that robots today have become more “clear and courageous” than men.